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Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:37:00 -
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This seems like a bad idea. Essentially, you're arguing that because language channels are listed in the client in a visible place, they need the kind of moderation that the forums get, and since you can't provide that (for reasons that make plenty of sense; I've no issue with this), you're going to do away with that visible listing. I would say: this is a place for a policy change. Those 39 channels serve a useful purpose, as lots of people have pointed out, and their visibility is part of that. So I think you'd be better to bite the bullet and admit that you can't moderate them and aren't going to. Put it in big red letters in a MOTD. And remind people that there's a block function. Penalizing everyone, on the other hand, just in order to punish the few seems less than fair. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.25 19:56:00 -
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Ok, constructive suggestion time. Since there've been no CCP responses to any of the concerns raised in this thread so far (or in the one on the German forums), we presumably have to assume that this is not something our friends in Reykjavik are prepared to negotiate about. Various people are creating alternatives already (Darkblad, Mai, etc.). But they're going to be hard to find. So if CCP are committed to this, the "channel finder" (such as it is) needs a massive overhaul. It needs to look and function like the fleet finder. People need to be able to advertise their private channels in it. (There is a "Player Channels" category, but I've no idea how to get a channel listed there.) There needs to be a language tag/filter. And there needs to be a function whereby you can vet people wanting to join. I'm calling on CCP to do this first, before shutting everyone down. At the very least, I'd like to be assured that something like this is in the pipeline. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:54:00 -
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You can make your own channel without having CCP close down all the others. How about that? Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:00:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, has someone contacted the CSM? Is there any CSM who speaks a non-supported language and can understand what those channels mean to our communities? Sugar Kyle talks about this in her CSM9 - Day 147 roundup. I suppose I'm gratified that she and I agree that one way forward would be to overhaul the chat finder. Nevertheless, I'd have liked to see the CSM engaging in the discussion in this thread as well. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:41:00 -
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Calando wrote:I'm curious what you people expect CCP to do, in light of the reasons they've stated. Should the entire CCP staff take a year off development and maintenance of EVE to learn every language in the world so they can adequately moderate every official language channel, as their own EULA stipulates they must do? Here's an idea: how about all of you learn to speak English, instead of forcing CCP to learn 500 different languages and dialects. You've clearly not bothered to read the thread. (And your post is a perfect example of the kind of puerile Anglophone arrogance it would be nice to see the 21st century someday overcome.) I've made two substantive suggestions about what I want CCP to do. CCP hasn't bothered to respond to either of them, nor to any of the concerns people have voiced here. Nor has it bothered to announce in the MOTDs that the channels are being shut down. Surely even someone like yourself can see that this is less than optimal. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.29 22:16:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Caroline Grace sent me over here.
All caught up and yeah, I am gonna go ask some questions.
A LOT of your suggestions seem reasonable. From the simple redirects before it closes down to not closing it down at all but modifying the MOTD
If I get news, have news I am allowed to tell you I will be back.
btw, I liked the basque quote, even if I did have to use google translate.
m Mike: thanks. With fewer than 11 hours to go, you're later to the party than I would have wished. But props to you for showing. Grateful for anything you can find out at this stage. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.09.30 03:10:00 -
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https://twitter.com/funkybacon/status/516777355449491457 Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.01 05:24:00 -
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This wasn't good, CCP, wasn't good. I'm logging in tonight to set a long skill. Might be a while before you see me in New Eden again. If at all. Just don't have the heart for it. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.05 04:55:00 -
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Darkblad wrote:Sooner or later, something might happen, now that Mike was involved and contacted CCP. I doubt it. CCP have given no one any indication of being prepared to discuss this with the player base; ExplorerGÇÖs tweet to Hanazava Karyna makes that perfectly clear. And to be honest, that even makes sense to me: they must know they don't have a leg to stand on, and attempting to defend such a wrong-headed -+solution-½ would only make them look worse. I certainly don't think they're going to turn around and re-introduce the language channels with Phoebe. How would they justify such a move without admitting that their removal with Oceanus was a mistake?
Haven't logged on in the last few days. I've thought of it once or twice, but then I remember that CCP deliberately removed the place I had used to meet others who speak my preferred language. The lesson that sends is that CCP doesn't respect me or my culture. It's hard to play a game produced by a company like that. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.09 15:46:03 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:and now losing the Swedish channel also...pff... EDIT: Ok...I noticed the channel still exists by writing the exact name of it...but does this now mean that some snotnose punk owns the channel? That snotnose punk youGÇÖre referring to? Is Chribba.
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